Showing posts with label Weatherford Project. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Weatherford Project. Show all posts

Tuesday, May 26, 2020

Kenny trying once again to Kill Trans Mountain expansion!

The new, proposed pipeline to the Dakota Border is another direct assault on the Trans-Mountain expansion.  The move burns up pension funds with no market insight!  Think of the future arguments, the Canada Pension Fund (Trans-Mountain Expansion) and the Alberta public Pension funds (AIMCo) going head to head on a limited resource.  The UCP will argue it is the Fed who are putting the public pensions at risk, not the Conservatives.   It is advertised to the Dakota Border, not across it. This is to avoid crossing a border giving the Feds authority. A US company will pick it up on the south side of the border.

More important, there is no mention of the diameter of the pipe or the product it is to move.  This brings forward the Spectre of the Weatherford Project, named after the company that designed it.  The purpose is to move 2/3 the flow of the Peace River to the  US Dakota border.  With 1/3 left the river will die. 

The US is self-sufficient in oil! Obama built 12000 miles of a new pipeline to make this happen.  https://albertathedetails.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-pipeline-conundrum.html

https://albertathedetails.blogspot.com/2008/03/bitumen-and-plenty-of-jobs-heading.html

https://albertathedetails.blogspot.com/2013/02/bubble-warnings-ignored.html

AS well, Kenny's move to sell the campgrounds strip mine coal is not new, a page out of Klein's history https://albertathedetails.blogspot.com/2009/08/alberta-history-3-camp-grounds-and.html


Friday, May 15, 2020

Canadian-Political-History

 

As a one time Conservative Riding secretary and of an age greater than 95% of Canadians I offer this glimpse into our past.

 

The Liberals built Canada with little interruption to their base until 1909 to 1937 in which case the American Republicans working through the Mormon Church, helped them establish "The United Farmers of Alberta"  This party morphed itself into the Veterans and Active force, 1944 to 1948, again the US Republicans were fully involved.  They then went Federal as the Conservative Party.

 

This morphed into the Conservatives which found a hard landing after Diefenbaker and the Avro-Arrow. (You now know the reason Diefenbaker scrapped the Arrow in Canada allowing the US to take up the design and ordered the only prototype of the Aero destroyed.) and, Harper sold off the Canadian Wheat Board to US interest in leaving office.  Additional record of Avro Aero


They again morphed into the Progressive Conservatives. This party was started by Peter Lougheed and company.  Peter broke away from the Republicans, in fact, took on US oil interests in Alberta in the much-maligned NATIONAL ENERGY PROGRAM.  Peter became the most popular Premier not only of Alberta but, all of Canada.   A world recession stepped in and interest rates went to 25%.  Families invested in oil lost homes and there were a number of suicides  With no internet, those with the money ruled the press!  This was all blamed onto The NEP which was destroyed!

When Klein took over he doubled down with the US Republicans.  All this happening while the Wild Rose Party kept the original foundation going with the Church.  Now we had two political parties which could appear as opposition, one extreme and one tame by comparison.  Doing what they do best, playing both ends against the middle.

 

Notably, Klein started the bleed on the Heritage Savings and Trust by freezing the fund at 5% profit taking all above into General Revenue to support his 10% flat tax.  The loss to Albertans 760 billion dollars most of which went directly back to US parent companies.  Norway over the same period banked over 1 trillion dollars with just half the production of Alberta!

 

Klein also ushered in the Energy East plan.  At one point he was going to continue with Lougheed's plan of building a Refinery in Edmonton,  Then, Shell oil suggested it would be better for everyone if they built pipelines to the Gulf Coast to their refineries.   West pipelines were never considered as Shell's gulf refineries already had the market captured.

 

In a final analysis, I see the US is in a position to take over our country!  By putting in a Conservative Government again will facilitate the end of our Dairy Marketing board and any other institutions that may hinder this process.  Kenny is working to eliminate us from the CPP for no other reason than the division of Alberta from Canada.

 

For the record: Kenny and Harper were thrown out of every trade meeting they attended throwing the advantage to the US.  No one could be this unlucky!

 

More recently,  

#Bill  C69  It allowed Harper to become a dictator in his own mind. Any conflict with a native group could be set aside by the Minister in charge. In action, it caused endless delays in the West coast pipeline.  C69 did away with two pieces of Harper/Kenny legislation National Energy Board Act: Replaced. S shipping off the west coast it will cut deeply into their markets in Indochina and China and, they will not be able to use their oil supply on or off as a bargaining chip!

 

Secondly: Canadian Navigable Waters Act; was changed by Harper/Kenny to a free-for-all. One outstanding item is the BC dam on the Peace River. A navigable river the dam was built and was criticized for not being able to produce enough electricity to pay for itself. It was however built to create a sump in the Peace River is suitable for drawing large amounts of water out of. 2/3 of the flow of the Peace River!!

 

This brings me to the #Weatherford Project. So named after the company who designed and specked it.


Weatherford is immensely designed to move 2/3rds of the flow of the Peace River to the US border. If Conservatives build this Canadian's will pay for the build so the US can get cheap water.

 

The design calls for 4 large diameter pipelines and 6 pumping stations. Each pumping station to use the electrical power of a city!

The Conservatives again looking after US interests, not Canada's!

Thursday, May 30, 2019

Canada’s Treasures at Risk!


The previous Conservative Government put in a plan to move 2/3rds of the Peace River to the US border. This is a fully engineered plan; ready to go and is called the Weatherford Plan. So named after the engineering firm that produced it. The new dam put in by BC which cannot produce enough electricity to pay for itself does, however, provide a large sump from which to draw water in volume.
The plans call for 6 lift stations, each using the power of a city. Original plans call for 4 large diameter pipes to move the water. If Conservatives build this line Canadians will end up paying for the pipeline in order to give the US inexpensive water!
This is why Harper and Kenny changed the designation on the Peace River. It is no longer classified as navigatable!.
Apart from that, the Canada Pension fund is a target. The US has for years complained about it as being a social program hold that it should be put into the hands of private companies.
Our present situation’ Thanks to Bell Media and its Post Media holdings interference into Canadian Politics, the Conservatives now have sufficient population and provinces to change the constitution no matter who gets in.

Friday, February 20, 2015

Recovery in a few years a dream!

We won't see the first part of a recovery for  6 years perhaps 7 and here is why.  The President of France has asked the EU to give up on the Russian Embargo which would do nothing at this point in time! He was rejected. Countries are playing down the Embargo and are more or less blaming the oil and LNG problem on fairies. Putin hooped them!

 Here is a link to what we could have been.

Oil suppliers around the world are leasing tankers for 1 to 2 years to store oil they can't sell with options to lengthen.  They are also saying times are better than 08 as there are more tankers available!

This stored oil will have to be used up before any new production can make it into the pipes. I'm saying 5 years for any improvements and 6 or 7 years before there is storage for new oil output. But; the world is set perfectly for a #protracted war.   Only a catastrophic failure like a war starting in the middle east and escalating though the Crimea and the world can change this scenario and, for the worse. Our young people as cannon fodder again.  

Recent propaganda pictures of Putin talking nuclear strike alternatives with his henchmen is at this point saber rattling.

Alberta's oil is being shipped by rail to the US where it goes into storage in Cushing Ill. Storage is expensive and limited.  The oil pipelines from Cushing to Texas Gulf are hitting their own problems it will be years before there is one; if then.

The US cannot refuse Canadian oil but it is all mixed in with market capacity in the US.  Obama signed a deal with Mexico to allow them to ship to the Gulf Refinery.  Obama has a surplus of oil coming out of shale that wasn't there before.   #Both these large items reduce the amount of oil they have to take from Canada!  Obama is hooping the Republicans who incidentally did the same thing to him.   

The Bakken Shale oil  is very high in High Vapor Base apparently.  This is the stuff that gasoline is made of.  Static build up in transit can cause ignition when exposed to enough air.  You either use to to make Gasoline or you reinject it back into the strata.  If you choose the latter it will turn out like Norman Wells, NWT where so much #condensate was injected back that it started to show up as an increasing high content at the wellhead meaning more cost and time to get it out of the oil so they can make P30;40 50 and jet fuel.  Point is it does not come out of a separate spout it is part of the crude!  US oil lies when it says they have in any way increased the flash point of their crude!  I see room for lawsuits here!

It is so rich in HVB which is very volatile the cars were self igniting causing ruling they had to reduce the amount of condensate in the crude.  Mini Refineries at wellhead?    They did this but still have had 3 fiery crashes which means they have to cut back more if they are serious about prevention.    This puts a glut of condensate in the US who now, for the first time ever have given permission to export condensate from the US.  Worthwhile to note our Tar Sands needs Condensate to enrich the crude.

#Prentice (Alberta) tells us here on the 18th there will be 3 years before any oil norms are reached!  That is Impossible and still another lie!  I'm saying the #oil will still be in those tankers at least  4 years down the road and that will have to be used before they can tap into new production. I'm saying up to 7 years before there is an improvement and predicting thousands laid off in the meantime.  As of now we have lost all of our markets! 

Consumer buying power in the west will be drastically reduced further dampening the world economy.  This is a bad time to be over financed on dream homes and boy's toy's! 

Obama has helped his people by guaranteeing companies in the shale production a working price on their oil.  Alberta can't do that; they blew it all; giving it away to oil!  We have nothing to face except higher taxes.

Prentice is jigging to get himself past the spring election as is Harper and this pipeline will give them another shot at the ring where there is nothing in their futures now.

#Harper and Kenny's bizarre immigration plan to legalize American oil patch illegals does nothing better than compound the problems faced by Alberta and all provinces! The criminal element they brought in with their stand on no vetting; no background checks is coming back to bite us. No matter which way you look at it Conservatives have made it worse.  Vancouver BC is now reporting Mexican Cartel gangs running the dope.  We never had that before!

In 2008 the Americans purchased the surplus oil in the tankers shortening considerably the drought. Not so this time, the Americans have their own shale oil they are topping up their storage!

As for #Saudi being the bad guys? It is simply not so! 

At the heart of it all is the West embargo on Russia who immediately responded with Gazprom inking a long term cheap oil and LNG deals with China. China to this point was the sacred market of the west including BC. I say cheap and long term because *China responded by saying their LNG plants (5 of them) in Indonesia are not making money enough so put them all up for sale! China's CNOOC Ltd is now declaring large losses on their petroleum.

The #Chinese operating company of these LNG (China's CNOOC Ltd) plants started their own price cutting scheme about the same time Gazprom declared an increase in output and opened up exports increasing them in Indonesia, China and Russia. All this is #Saudi turf; what would you have them do? 

It is Putin who hooped our diplomats and took our markets; not the Saudi. I see #Merkel's hand on all of it.

The US limited Saudi input into the Gulf refinery hurting them further. This, while Obama inked a deal with Mexico to import their heavy crude into the Gulf Refinery and haul away Condensates to upgrade their crude in their own country. 

Perhaps Obama is playing the long game; looking 7 years down the road and wants a place to put the US oil?

This put the cold wash on the Keystone pipeline. At best; a world of uncertainty. In case you missed it; all of our existing markets have gone!  #Stopping the embargo on Russia is not going to change anything now. Its in the works for years to come.

Japan (Christies(BC) big dream) who the petroleum people looked upon as a gold mine asked Obama if they could get in on the 3.00 LNG market north America. He said no. Christie in BC's get rich fast deal went down the tubes. A new Government in Japan! Immediately 3 nuclear plants re-commissioned with notice they will build 6 more state of the art plants within the next two years. 

The Conservatives in Alberta have been lying for years. They have pulled trillions of dollars yes, Trillions out of Alberta's economy and tucked it into the oil pockets. 

Quick list:
Heritage trust frozen at 5% everything else went into General Revenues as taxes.. Loss to Alberta  over 700 billion dollars.

They discounted our oil by 30% going into any deal. Trillions lost there over the years. 

We collect zero for royalty and have not collected any for several years. Multi millions lost there. 

Flat tax: middle class pay the bulk of the taxes; industry gets a free ride.  This is money taken off your table.

I don't want to loose my home; my pensions. I will be supporting the Federal Liberals and the Alberta NDP who will put in a variable tax like the rest of Canada has. The 10% tax in place makes the middle and low income pay the lion's share of the taxes while oil floats free. The Alberta Liberals take the same position.  A link to their platform and history  

Other choices?  None realistically.  The Alberta Party was invented by the oil companies not to win anything, but to split the vote on the left because they haven't gone anywhere to date they probably don't get the bills paid for by oil.  

No my friends, there is no up side!

Other Ministers have been busy too.  Cardinal sold or leased all the crown free grazing lands on the east slope of the Rockies to the Agra Food Industry (Nestle?)  That is where all our water aquifers start!  First in line, first in time for settling water disputes.

When an oil company #asked for a bucket of water they were given a swimming pool!  In this way the Conservatives used up all the water allotments.  On one side these allotments can be sold; Is this the end of Provincial ownership?  On the other end oil companies can claim they used only a small portion of their allotments when challenged on their use of the water.

Brooks ran short of water because of their allotment numbers not because there was no water available.  They #paid an oil company 1 million dollars for a portion of their water allotments who in turn claim they gave it to an unnamed charity.  A second allotment was bought from an Conservative insider for an undisclosed amount.

The St. Mary's water agreement was/is under pressure.  The Americans figure now they were hooped when they gave that amount of water off the St. Mary's Glacier to Canada.

Cardinal worked his crooked magic.  The #Water Association for St. Mary's was overhauled.  If a person did not have property on the St. Mary's aquifer they were removed from any membership.  Only people who were actually on the aquifer could vote.  Rock piles that were on the aquifer but not leased or owned were quickly sold to insiders it is all about the privatization of water in Alberta and Canada.

It is a good time to mention #Harper has three times refused to acknowledge water as a human right in Canada!  It brings to mind a photo I seen about a Bechtel water operation in I think Africa.  Only blacks in the picture carrying tin petro buckets on their heads and a person being refused water because he didn't have 5 cents to pay for a bucket full.

Harper has turned loose hundreds of #water export permits from Canada. The Royal Bank holds a lot of them.

#Electricity:
When Klein "privatized" Electricity he invented Power Purchase Agreement.  A generator could not own transmission was at the crux of it so the generation from each plant was sold as a PPA public bids were asked for, no names of who bid or what was bid were ever released.  Big buck insiders reported as the participants.  Reports of the PPA's being flipped as many as 3 times before being handed over to the cities.  Millions in profits were taken every flip.

It was reported at the time the Alberta taxpayers lost 7 billion dollars in the deal!   This ushered in the era of indirect taxation.  Less money was given by the province to the cities.  The cities were given free reign on what they charged for power or what they added on as line charges (Line charge being 1 item on the bill that presumably comes off when the item is paid for)   EPCOR made it to National Geographic in April 2010 as being the highest priced water in the world.  Fortis have been said to say they are not making any money in Alberta and want out.  Soon after a US private buyer was announced by the Government. 

AESO who are not prone to error declared a several billion dollar error.   Who could have guessed?
They said we will be billed 20 dollars more per month initially moving rapidly up to 30.00 per month.
There are 1.5 million meters spinning in Alberta. At 20 dollars a meter is 3 million dollars a month new income for someone.  At 30 dollars per meter is 4.5 million dollars a month for someone or #54 million dollars a year for no defined number of years  of indirect taxation; no explanations.

BC's #Site C dam has been refused for years because at 1100 mwh it cannot pay for itself. However it does create a lake from which water can be pumped year around which is required by the Weatherford project. Site C is about exporting the Peace River not about generating electricity!


I don't see how Christie can make sweeping good will promises in this wreckage of an economy we are living in.


Tuesday, December 30, 2014

Our Shit Position; thanks to Conservatives.


The #Saudi market place was being destroyed by cheap LNG from Indonesia. To counter this they dropped their prices which effects us all. Saudi can produce oil close, probably under 5.00 per barrel range so there is a lot of room to move. China owns the Indonesia plants and has them up for sale saying there is no money in them. (My personal thought is the Chinese will continue to drop prices into oblivion until some country meets their asking price for the LNG plants hence 14.00 oil or lower)

Sounds like a great *opportunity for either the Saudi or Japan who were refused access to North America's 3.00 per barrel market instead they were charged 15.00 per barrel and above. BC is on its way to building a large LNG terminal and their only market for the LNG was Japan. #Japan has come under new government who immediately set about recommissioning #3 nuclear plants that were closed and promise to build 8 more within the next two years. There goes BC's market!

As a second position #Christie announced building a new dam down stream from their existing dam. This is 1100 MWH plant and has been turned down several times because #it cannot produce sufficient money to pay for it's self. But, what she isn't telling her people the dam will create a large lake from which to draw water year around for export to the US.

Alberta has a #fully engineered plan from the 80s costing them millions at the time. The# Weatherford Plan consists of 3 very large pipes and 8 pumping lifts each taking the power of a city to operate.. It will have the capacity when complete to move 2/3rd of the Peace River South but it need's Christie 's new dam to pull it off. There is an election coming between now and then.

http://albertathedetails.blogspot.ca/2012/04/water-exports-peace-river-weatherford.html

In the meantime we are overproducing BTUs; oil and gas to an extent it will take years to move the inventory. Want to know where the price of oil is going; watch the price of LNG and the plays on the Indonesian LNG plants. I suspect we will see several dollar drop yet.
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Tuesday, December 23, 2014

Conservatives plan and history of your water and, you pay!!

The set-up: Like every resource development in this province the taxpayer will pay for it; hundreds of billions!
Foremost is #Harper's refusal 3 times at the UN to allow drinking water to be recognized as a human right!  Its all downhill from there!  I recall a picture of Bechtel, in charge of water in a third world country, turning people away from the community tap because #they didn't have their nickel to pay for the bucket of water!   That is extreme but, that is the direction they are taking us and, fast.

The #Fraser Institute is the mouthpiece for the Conservative organization.  It is made up of US #Republicans and Canadian #Conservatives, there being far more #U S members than Canadian.  This is the source of Conservative policy.  A common thread in this organization is a #single state instead of two countries.

The #Royal Bank is holding millions if not billions of dollars in #fresh bulk water export permits. 

The avarice on taking Canadian water with no returns to citizens of Canada is a very old story starting in fact with Brian Mulroney's duplicity in his dealing with the NAFTA accord.  http://nesara.insights2.org/NAFTA.html

In this same time period,#Alberta paid multi millions of dollars  for a #fully engineered project capable of moving 2/3s of the Mighty Peace River to the US Border. It is called #"The Weatherford Project"  more on that later.

While this is going on, Ralph Klein was mayor of Calgary and made very sure the Calgary Brewing and Malting company had first pick at the water in the aquifers and the surface (river) waters which are quickly drying up. 

Calgary Brewing has more water allotments than does the city of Calgary.  This was a legacy in part of the old aquarium run by Calgary Brewing.






As it is right now; Alberta Conservatives have given oil companies much larger water allotments than they asked for the idea being these same oil companies will sell allotments to municipalities as they require them.  Southern Alberta is particularly vulnerable.  We are told when asking there is no water left. No matter what happens, the water will go to #insiders under a Conservative Government.

All of this was covered in my letter to the Honourable Lorne Taylor, copy follows.
                                                                                                              
   14815 – 123 Ave.,
                                                                        Edmonton, AB
                                                                        T5L 2Y7

                                                                        January 9, 2004.

                                                                   
The Honourable Lorne Taylor
Alberta Environment
Edmonton, Alberta.

Re:- The wholesale privatization and sale of Alberta Water. As the scorpion said to the fox “It’s what I do.”

Dear Sir:

Your comments validating the Weatherford project on the inter basin transfer (two-thirds of the flow of the Peace River) to southern Alberta are noted as is the comment that a special act of legislature is all that is required to enact this; millions having be spent on the survey and mechanical planning of the project.

It is no accident I think, that this was taken while the Mulroney Government was dealing NAFTA. Reference http://nesara.insights2.org/NAFTA.html  (Pheonix Project).

Also noted is Alberta Regulations 292/84 where you quietly stripped away the title of all the water lines for Leduc, the county of Leduc, the Town of Beaumont and the town of Calmar moving the title to a newly acclaimed “Capital Region Southwest Water Services Commission”. 

By now much of these lines are paid for and ripe for you to sell off for pennies as you did the electricity, parks and camp-grounds. All to insiders with no public disclosure; pocketing the change.

In both cases the door is open the complete sale of the lines and services to a private firm by a simple “Order in Council” a process that takes less than an extended coffee break and by passes an open vote in the legislature.

I recall when this was set up.  The Leduc County wanted to join Devon’s water supply and was told no by your Government.  It was mandatory they draw from Edmonton, reasons not given at the time.  You are using this same Mandatory hammer in your current dealings in the Water for Life farce. Join the provincial pipe or loose all your funding. 

Any excess water from the #Weatherford Water Pipeline or joined lines could then be dumped into the St. Mary’s aquifer in Southern Alberta and flow freely back into the USA via the Milk River probably unchallenged by the Federal Government.

After you have sold all of these to private enterprise as is your stated intention there is absolutely nothing to stop this same private company from turning over quick cash selling off the pipeline and now integrated services of water billing, supply etc; to a foreign company or country such as the US.  You flipped the electricity purchases #(PPA) 3 times or more to #drive up the cost of power.  One can expect the same treatment here.

This is precisely what happened to the Aquila electrical distribution our power distribution, which was paid  for by Albertans is now foreign owned, nothing being returned and  personal exploitation our only view left.   You looking after us?  I really don’t think so!  Apart from the #7 billion dollar loss to taxpayers on that deal we continue to get robbed monthly.

If Alberta’s elect your extreme right Conservative Government again, this is the future they write.
Looking at your record, who could possibly believe you, saying otherwise?


John Clark   

The #St. Mary's Glacier is diminishing quickly.  The original #treaty between the US and Canada gave Canada the lions share of the water; something Montana is working on changing.   The St.Mary's aquifer was built by the US Corp of Engineers; purpose to run through Alberta to get water into Eastern Montana.

This brings me to #Minister Mike Cardinal.  While  he was in office he gave all the #crown grazing lands on the east coast of the Rocky mountains to unnamed parties in the Agra Food Industry for undisclosed prices. (Nestle?)

This is very significant as the potable water aquifers start on the east slope of the Rocky Mountains and flow underground to the east.   Rules on water rights First in Line and First in Time.  Its time for a New Alberta Liberal Government to come in and set the #whole lease thing right.  It is a disaster financially for this province the way it is being run!  You operate as a Casino. with all the odds to you personally!   #People who hold the leases get them for nothing then, charge the Government or oil companies for access to the same lease.  Such a deal!

It is these underground rivers that are being contaminated by drilling and the contamination can extend miles depending on the flow rate.

This recent idea of the Government's to pump out the contaminated water is like catching butterflies with  a basketball hoop.  This is a #flowing underground river, they will pump until nothing else is tested and call it a win when the crap is simply washed down stream.

Other water problems started in the Klein-Cardinal era.
John Clark
14815 – 123 Ave
Edmonton, AB
T5L 2Y7

September 5, 2004.

  
Honorable Ralph Klein,
Room 307
Legislative Building,
Edmonton, AB T4K 2C6

Mike Cardinal, MLA
Minister of Sustainable Resource Development
420 Legislature Building
10800 - 97 Avenue
Edmonton T5K 2B6

The Honorable Minister Patricia L. Nelson,
224 Legislature Building 10800 - 97 Avenue
Edmonton, AB   T5K 2B6

Ladies and Gentlemen:

It has come to my attention that #Mr. Cardinal has taken the unprecedented action of selling off immense strips of property to the highest bidder!  I refer to the broad tracks of public lands on the east slope of the Rockies!   I’m not sure how this was #done below the public radar unless tendered only to insider industry and friends.

Patricia Nelson outlined she was not going to attack Albertan’s pensions; she had found another source of revenue.   You are prepared to strip this province to the bone before you do the decent thing and collect a reasonable royalty for our oil!

When you people get through with this province there will be nothing left to call our own!  Why all of this insanity?  Is it necessary to privatize our water and public lands #without public consultation in relative secrecy to appease the US Agri-Beverage industry in order to catch some kind of perverse break on the Mad Cow crisis?

These properties on the eastern slope are above major fresh water aquifers.  Does the water right go with the property sale or do the people of Alberta have some control left over this critical resource?

Some direct answers please!

John Clark

With the #St. Mary's under contest from the #US and a great many people in southern Alberta (PC Insiders and more recently Wild Rose members) having their fortunes set on a piece of that aquifer Cardinal had to so something.

He dissolved the association that "ran" or "supervised" the St. Mary's on Canada's side.   This would be the Conservative insiders.   He changed the rules in the new association by-law which effectively limited the number of people in the association. Now, one must actually own property that sits adjacent or on the St. Mary's to vote on any issue!

New insiders were brought aboard as rock piles that would never grow anything were identified and sold as properties for the sole purpose of getting a vote on that Association.  I was told American interests bought some of these.


From: "Rogers,Jim [Reg]"
To: "'John Clark'"
Subject: RE: Water works
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 3:52 PM

The letter to the International Joint Commission (IJC) was signed by the
#Governor of Montana and suggested that the IJC's 1921 Order on sharing of
the waters of the St. Mary and Milk Rivers did not meet the intent of the
Canada - United States Boundary Waters Treaty of 1909.

The IJC consists of three members from each country appointed by the Prime
Minister and the President respectively. The #IJC will report to the federal
governments through the Canadian Minister of Foreign Affairs and
International Trade (Graham) and the U.S. Secretary of State (Powell).
#Montana, #Saskatchewan and #Alberta will be offered an opportunity to provide
input to the IJC but final decisions will be negotiated by the U.S. and
Canadian federal governments.

The Navigable Waters Protection Act can be found on the Justice Canada site (for the most part done away by Stephen Harper)
<http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/n-22/text.html> . For specifics on the Peace
River, would you have look for specific regulations or contact the office of
the Canadian Coast Guard.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:cyberclark@shaw.ca]
Sent: April 13, 2004 2:47 PM
To: Rogers,Jim [Reg]
Subject: Water works
I hear on the news locally today, the US feels they deserve a greater share
of the Milk River.
 Who in the US would be pressing an issue like this; Who in Canada would have
to respond?

Would such a complaint be put to Saskatchewan or to Canada?

Also would really appreciate a pointer on where to find information on
applications for draft that have been granted by the Feds on the Peace River
(As it applies to the Marine Navigation Act)

A web site or a name and address etc would be appreciated.

Regards,
John Clark
And now the #Weatherford Project.
The fully engineered in the 80s and in tune with Mulroney's efforts is ready to go #Weatherford Project is immense!  It calls for #3 very larger steel pipes and #8 pumping stations each of which use #more electricity than a city!  (Think here of the northern power lines you are paying for!)

Conceived to move up to 2/3s of the #flow of the Peace River south to the St. Mary's aquifer.  One alternative at this point would be to dump into the St. Mary's and allow it to flow to the Milk River and back into the USA.  Other possibilities exist to service Western Montana and Dakota.

Harper has facilitated this by #removing the #Navigational Waters classification from the Peace River and any number of other bodies of water.    #Natives have absolutely no say in what happens to their water any more than we do!

In order to provide a  year round supply of water the problem of water levels has to be overcome.  This brings us to #Christy's new dam
https://www.sitecproject.com/  called simply site "C" and will have an output of electricity of 1100 MW.

The idea of this dam has been defeated many times as it does not produce enough electricity to pay for itself.  Starting figure is #11 billion dollars and it will probably cost twice or 3 times that much. Such is the nature of earth dams. 

The space between the #Hudson Hope dam and #Site C will form a #large reservoir.  A large reservoir is what is needed to provide  year around water for the Giant pipe lines going south.

That is what the new #Site C is all about; not electricity which is nothing more than a distraction.

The Conservatives, the B C Liberals are marshalled behind the US Republicans soon to come into power again in the US.  This, the key to the timing. #Christie Clark Lied to her public.

Summary of #PNWER

There  are far more U S #Republicans in this club #paid for by taxpayers than there are Conservatives and #Christie Clark is their star.

This being the case one way or other the taxpayer, #you and I are going to pay for this fiasco.  Remember we have no human right to drinking water.  That means we will have to buy it from whoever is the seller at the time and at that sellers price.  All in the name of high prices help conservation.

The Conservatives got into power with a huge majority with only 22% of the popular vote showing up for them.

I put my trust into #Raj Sherman and the #Alberta Liberals and in #Trudeau and the #Federal Liberals.    We have to turn this juggernaut around!
  1. #Make up your mind to vote
  1. #Make up your mind to vote for your Liberal candidates.

The following is an excellent thesis for those of you with a hunger for detail and want to take the considerable time to do your own research.  Of particular interest is the #natives are blowing smoke when they talk about "their water"

Again, #Harper has removed the Navigable Water act from the Peace River and many other lakes and rivers. This is all real and is under way now.  #Christie Clark, BC Lies about the Dam.

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Water Rights in Alberta
Annotated Bibliography
Compiled by Maureen Bell
LL.M. Candidate
University of Calgary

Structure
This annotated bibliography includes literature related to entitlement to water. It is organized along jurisdictional boundaries beginning with Alberta, followed by Canada, International jurisdictions (primarily the United States and Australia) and concluding with a section on environmental law matters which are related to water quality. In each section I have made every
effort to include the leading authorities. Each section is further divided according to standard legal bibliography by McGill Law Journal’s Canadian Guide to Uniform Legal Citation 4th Edition published by Carswell, for secondary material. The majority of the works are articles.

The first section of this bibliography deals with literature on water entitlements and issues in the Province of Alberta, Canada. In this province the law changed substantially in 1999 upon the proclamation of the Water Act RSA 2000 c.W-3. Little has been written on this statute to date and as a result the bibliography focuses on literature which predates this new act. Literature
written prior to 1999 will provide background to the new Act, and inform the reader on sections of the Act which have been carried forward.

The second section deals with literature on Canadian water issues. Because water moves both on the surface and underground, it is difficult to restrict it to one jurisdiction.

The third section consists of literature on international water entitlement issues with a focus on those jurisdictions, which Alberta’s legislation is based on, or the issues and jurisdictional structure are similar. These jurisdictions include Australia and the south western United States.

The last section concerns environmental matters because it has become apparent to me that it is not possible to study water entitlement without considering, at some point, water quality.


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Alberta:
Monographs
Gisvold, P., A Survey of the Law of Water in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba (Ottawa:Prairie Farm and Rehabilitation Administration and Economics Division, Canada Department of Agriculture, 1956)

This historical legal resource surveys the laws, both statute and common law, in relation to the South Saskatchewan River that flows through these three Prairie Provinces, Kwasniak, A., Swanson, E., and Tingley, D., In Response to Draft Water Conservation and Management Act (Edmonton: Alberta Law Foundation, 1995).

This monograph addresses section by section the objections of the authors to the proposed legislation, which focuses on environmental concerns.
Kwasniak, A., Alberta’s Wetlands: A Law and Policy Guide (Edmonton:Environmental Law Centre, 2001).

Written for the layperson, this monograph asks and answers a comprehensive list of questions appropriate for a manager of wetlands in Alberta.

Articles Kwasniak, A., “Existing Water Rights and the Water Conservation and Management Act” in In Response to Draft Water Conservation and management Act (Edmonton: Alberta Law Foundation 1995).

The writer suggests ways in which the proposed Water Conservation and Management Act could regulate existing non-exempt water entitlements as an alternative to the method proposed in the Act. Percy, D., “Water Rights in Alberta” Alberta Law Review (1977) 15 Alta. L. Review 142

The author, David Percy, is a leading authority on water in Canada and is currently Dean of the Faculty of Law, University of Alberta. This article discusses the rights to divert surface water as they existed in 1977 beginning with the history of the legislation from the Northwest Irrigation Act (federal) in 1894. He highlights the fact that the Act was designed to provide a system that
would permit large scale irrigation, which riparian rights did not do. He also notes the two

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fundamental principles of Alberta water rights are modelled on foreign jurisdictions) – control in the crown is based on the water model in Victoria, Australia and ii) the first in time, first in right principle is based on the American appropriation principle. He also traces the histories of irrigation licenses and districts, which are relevant to licenses today.

Percy, D. “Seventy-five Years of Alberta Water Law: Maturity, Demise & Rebirth” (1996-1997) 35 Alberta Law Review 221.
This article is more detailed and builds on Percy’s 1977 work of 1977. He traces the history of water rights in Alberta from riparian rights through the Northwest Irrigation Act 1894 (federal), Irrigation Act (federal) and its amendments of 1920, the transfer to the provinces under the Natural Resources Transfer Agreement of 1930, the Water Resources Act of 1931 and
amendments in 1962 and finally the Water Act R.S.A. 1996, C. W-35. In this article, Percy sets out the purpose of the legislation and identifies the strengths and weaknesses of the both the legislation and the administration of it, which he has an in-depth knowledge of due to his study of water over an extended period of time. This article provides a basis for the current legislation
and practice.

Percy, D., The Regulation of Groundwater In Alberta (Edmonton: Environmental Law
Centre, 1997).
This book uses to case studies to illustrate the way in which ground water was managed noting where practices diverge from the law.

Canada
Monographs
Bartlett, R.H., Aboriginal Water Rights in Canada: A study of Aboriginal Title to Water and Indian Water Rights (Calgary: Calgary, Canadian Institute of Resources Law, University of Calgary, 1988).

Written in 1988, this book is a source for the law respecting Aboriginal matters. He discusses aboriginal title to water in Canada from the perspective of aboriginal rights – traditional uses, priority for time immemorial, treaty rights – contemporary uses, priority from the date of registration, ownership of beds of rivers and lakes including a discussion of riparian rights in
beds underlying navigable water, and the lack of ownership in foreshore or beds of tidal waters.

He raises issues such as the Prairies and Quebec rejection of the presumption of ownership of the water – bed of navigable waters in favour of the riparian owner which, in his opinion, if it were

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to result in the denial of Indian ownership of the water-bed, it would deny to the Indians significant of the traditional waterways unless it was otherwise provided in the reserve lands. He notes the appropriateness of an examination of United States cases to certain Canadian issues including similar presumptions of ownership such as that which abhors the transfer of the
riverbed excluding federal jurisdiction and the interpretation of treaties bounded by water that are interpreted to extend to the centre of the river. He includes extensive case authority and provides his comments on whether they ought to apply in Canada. Likewise, his chapter on Constitutional Jurisdiction and Protection with respect to water rights is a good basis from which
to start an analysis of the scope of federal jurisdiction, the protection accorded to aboriginal title to water, the regime applicable to Indian reserves, the power of the provinces, and the entrenchment of constitutional rights.

He makes recommendations such as a “comprehensive” water rights adjudication system and an institutionalized negotiating process similar to the Fort Peck/Montana Compact Board. Percy, D., Wetlands and the Law in the Prairie Provinces of Canada (Edmonton: Environmental Law Centre (Alberta) Society 1993).

This book sets out the history of wetlands and the current laws pursuant to which they can be protected.
Kennett, S., Managing Inter-jurisdictional Waters in Canada: A Constitutional Analysis Rights (Calgary: Canadian Institute of Resources Law, University of Calgary, 1991).
This monograph describes in detail the issues arising from the management of Inter-jurisdictional water and the problems, which arise in seeking solutions. He reviews three solutions – intergovernmental agreements, adjudication and the exercise of federal jurisdiction.

La Forest,G., Water Law in Canada (Ottawa: Information Canada, 1973).
Although this text purports to include all of Canada, it focuses on the water laws in the Maritime Provinces. The author is a former judge of the Supreme Court of Canada who has written other matters related on water and the environment. This book is recommended for the discussion of
constitutional issues, it was referred to by the court in the case of Friends of the Oldman River Society v. Canada (Transport) [1992] 1.S.C.R.
Lucas, A.R., Security of Title in Canadian Water Rights (Calgary: Canadian Institute of Resources Law, University of Calgary, 1990).

Professor A. Lucas writes in areas of Administrative Law, Environmental Law and Water Law.

In this monograph he considers the issues that affect the transferability of water rights, primarily in Alberta. Although it is written prior to the new Water Act, the discussion is relevant to
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licenses which precede the Act and the case studies set out terms and conditions of licenses which are still valid. One of the primary impacts of the book is the suggestion that conditions of the licenses may be ultra vires the Act as it then was which would make the indefinite term license of questionable validity.
Muldoon, P., and Valiante, M., Toxic Water Pollution in Canada: Regulatory Principles for Reduction and Elimination with Emphasis on Canadian Federal and Ontario Law (Calgary: Canadian Institute of Resources Law, 1989).

The writers address the impact of cumulative point and non-point source pollution, the legislative schemes that may apply and recommend alternatives.
Percy, D., The Framework of Water Rights Legislation in Canada (Calgary: Canadian Institute of Resources Law, 1988).

This book divides Canada into three areas – Western Canada, Northern Canada and Ontario and describes the framework for water rights of each.
Saunders, O., Inter-jurisdictional Issues in Canadian Water Management (Calgary: Canadian Institute of Resources Law, University of Calgary, 1988).

The writer focuses on the issues arising from the arrangements between the federal government and the provinces concerning inter-provincial waters.
Wenig, M., Fisheries Act and Watershed Management (LL.M. Thesis, University of Calgary Law School, 1999) [unpublished].
Mr. Wenig compiles an extensive historical and jurisprudential database of history and cases concerning the Fisheries Act and the potential for use of this legislation for managing watersheds as ecosystems. His review of the Fisheries Act focuses on the sections dealing with fish habitat and his authorities are extensive. He concludes that the existing legislative framework will permit the ecosystem approach to watershed management if federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans acts. To date, there has been very little action and the provinces are moving into the breach.

Winterbourne, K., Constitutional and International Trade Law Challenges to Provincial Regulation of Water Exports (LL.M. Thesis, University of Calgary Law School, 2002)
[unpublished].

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This thesis reviews the authority of each of the provinces over provincial water and identifies the  ways in which the jurisdiction of each can be challenged, particularly in the event a exercises control over water transfer between basins, provinces and countries.
ARTICLES - Canada Gibson, D., “The Constitutional Context of Canadian Water Planning” (1969) 7 Alta L.
Rev. 71
In this article the author identifies legal issues arising from the federal and provincial jurisdictions over water. He argues that an Interjurisdictional basin management structure, which takes the focus off who has jurisdiction, is a viable option.

La Forest, G., “Inter-provincial Rivers” (1972) 50 CBR 39
The writer deals exclusively with the agreements affecting interprovincial rivers. He considers whether the international principle of Thalweg, the central channel of the river, or the common law principle of ad medium filum aquae ought to apply to the boundaries between provinces formed by rivers and identifies issues arising from each.

Laskin, B. “Jurisdictional Framework for Water Management” in Resources for
Tomorrow Conference Background Papers Volume I Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources 1961 (Ottawa: Queen’s Printer, 1961) 211.
This is a seminal article that lays out both the common law and constitutional jurisdiction of the federal and provincial governments to manage water in Canada.
Valiante, M., “TheGreat Lakes Charter Annex 2001: Legal Dimension of Provincial Participation” (2003) Vol. 13, Journal of Environmental Practice 47
In this recent article, Valiante explores the extent of the authority of the provinces of Ontario and Quebec to enter into Annex 2001, an agreement among these provinces and eight states to manage the water in the Great Lakes and the related ecosystems. The author focuses on Ontario setting out the common law and statutory basis for the Ontario water management strategy.

Although the bottom line is that the agreement will likely be supported because there is a tradition of political respect, she notes that the federal government has not been consulted with respect to fisheries, navigation and shipping, federal environmental jurisdiction and First Nations, which ought to be done. To further support Annex 2001, she challenges the residents of
the Great Lakes Basin to rethink their assumptions (unlimited supply) and priorities (unlimited use) to include the whole Basin and future generations.

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International Works On Water Entitlements
Monographs - International
Beck, R. ed in chief, Waters and Water Rights (Newark: Matthew Bender & Company,2003).

This is a primary legal resource on water rights, which in eight updated volumes, describes water rights in the United States and bordering countries.
Denning, J. Ed., The Public Trust Doctrine in Natural Resources Law and Management (Davis: University of California, 1981).

The section of this book titled “Current Litigation” describes the Mono Lake litigation in which the public trust doctrine was successfully used to conserve water.

Getches, D., Water Law in a Nutshell, (St. Paul: West Publishing Co., 1997).
This book is an overview of water law in the United States.
MacDonnell, L., Rice, T., & Shupe S., eds., Instream Flow Protection in the West (Boulder: Natural Resources Law Centre, 1989).
This work is a compilation of essays on the various aspects of instream flow needs and protection created by federal, state, tribal or private authority.
Reisner, M., Cadillac Desert: The American West and Its Disappearing Water (New York: Penguin Books 2ed 1993).

This seminal work describes the history of the water supplied to Southern California, including the purchase of appropriation rights, the construction of the aqueduct from Mono Lake in Northern California and the construction of major dams. Sax, J.L., Thompson, B.H., & Nagan, W.P., et al eds., Legal Control Of Water Resources Cases And Materials third edition by of law etc. 4th ed. (St. Paul: West Group, 2000).
This book is a significant compilation of the law of water generally in the United States. The book endeavors to be on the cutting edge of an area of law that is changing and is a

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comprehensive resource for categories of issues in water law including surface water, ground water, aboriginal rights, and water quality.

Trelease, G. & Gould, G. A., Water Law Cases and Materials, 4th ed. (St. Paul: West Publishing Co., 1986).
This book is a resource textbook of American water law.
Articles - International Butler, L., “The Pathology Of Property Norms: Living Within Nature's Boundaries” (2000) 73 S. Cal. L. Rev. 927.

This article discusses the negative or pathological impact private property norms have had on use and management of ecological systems. The theory of the writer is that private property rights must change to include environmental responsibility according to the ecological consequences of use. An scenario discussed by the author is the difference between using water at a time when it is abundant and therefore less ecologically damaging versus using water when very little is available.
Gardner, A., “The Legal Basis for the Emerging Value of Water Licences – Property Rights or Tenuous Permissions” (2002) 10 Australian Property Law Journal 8.

This article discusses the history of water rights in Australia from common law rights, through the discretionary administration and disposition of statutory privileges. He discusses the problems with discretionary licenses in relation to trading including non-transferability and questions of compensation when the terms of a license are varied as permitted by its terms. The experience in Australia continues to be relevant to Alberta law due to the fact that the original act was based on the control of water being in the crown.

Parobek, C.S., “Of Farmers’ Takes and Fishes’ Takings: Fifth Amendment Compensation Claims when the Endangered Species Act and Western Water Rights Collide” (2003) 27 Vol. Harvard Environmental Law Review 177.

This article describes the conflict between appropriators with strong water rights, based on the first in time, first in right principle, and the federal Endangered Species Act over whether the water is used for irrigation or left in the Klamath Lake, Oregon, for endangered species. The writer is of the opinion that a water right is to use only, the ownership of water remains in the
public. Although the article focuses on the American private property right to compensation in

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the event of a taking by the federal government, it is useful from a Canadian perspective as a case history of the conflict and the legal issues that must be resolved, such as compensation.

Peck, J.C., “Property Rights in Groundwater — Some Lessons from the Kansas
Experience” (2003) 12 Kan. J.L. & Pub. Pol’y 493.
This article sets out the principles of aquifer safe yield, which are intended to limit aquifer mining to a sustainable level in a jurisdiction in which underground water is considered to be private property. He argues for limited term rights with options in the government to manage use, during the term, in emergencies.
Smith, Paula K. "Coercion and groundwater management: three case studies and a 'market' approach." (1986) Vol.16 Environmental Law. 797.
Smith reviews how Arizona, Vermont, and Orange County, California address five common groundwater management problems - waste, well interference, restrictions on the transfer, failure to acknowledge the interaction with surface water, and overdraft. She concludes boldly that "coercion in groundwater management" is necessary to remedy these problems; in addition to the establishment of market-type mechanisms that encourage efficient transfer of water supplies to areas where they are most needed. The academics must support this position, as there is very little support in the community for such drastic measures.

Thorne, V., “Water scarcity and Its Impact on Water Rights: A Real Concern for
Multinational Companies?” (2003) 33 Environmental Law Reporter 1.
The author, counsel for a major international company, describes legal issues faced by a business reliant on water in several national and international jurisdictions including the United States, Europe, Latin America, India and Africa. The doctrine of equitable utilization of apportionment as an international principle of apportionment is discussed.

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ENVIRONMENTAL WORKS RELATED TO WATER
Monographs -Environmental
Boyd, D.R., An Unnatural Law: Rethinking Canadian Environmental Law and Policy (Vancouver: University of British Columbia Press, 2003).
This book provides a well researched, well-organized and dispassionate source of factual information on water exports as they were at the time of writing, drinking water standards focusing on source protection, water pollution point sources and water conservation options.

Brundtland, G.H., Our Common Future - World Commission on Environment and Development (Oxford, Oxford University Press, 1990)
This monograph is the seminal work on sustainability.

Colborne, T., Dumanoski, D., & Peterson, J., Our Stolen Future (Toronto, Penguin Books
Canada Ltd., 1996)
This book describes the cumulative impact human-made chemicals have on hormonal systems in water among other mediums.

Hughes, E., Lucas, A.R., & Tilleman, W. A., (eds) Environmental Law and Policy 3rd ed.(Toronto: Emond Montgomery Publications Limited, 2003).

This book is an edited compilation of sources setting out current law and policy issues in Canadian Environmental Law, including water. It is the primary reference for the introductory environmental law course for the University of Calgary.




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